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• Observational Needs for Nowcasting Applications (6 memos): winter weather; thunderstorms; dense fog and ceiling; fire monitoring; flood forecasting; and offshore winds and sea ice
• Earth System Description (2 memos): description of Earth system environment; attributes of variables to describe the Earth system

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1. Setting up the stage - Mike/Frank (5')2.  Refresh/Revisit Rate Definitions and Application to NOAA Constellations."   - Led by Scott Schnee (30')3. General Discussion (25')2nd hour - Core-SAT members only - Feds 11:00-12:00 PM

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1. Setting up the stage: Mike & Frank (5')2. SAT Overview led by Mike Bonadonna. (25')3. SUNWG Overview led by Edward Grigsby/Andrew Heidinger (25')4. Discussion (25')2nd hour - Core-SAT members only - Feds

Agenda1. Setting up the stage - Mike & Frank (5')2. Attributes of Earth System Variables for Comparing Observing System Performances             to Application Requirements - Ross Hoffman (30')3. General Discussion (25')

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1. Setting up the stage - Mike & Frank (5')2. SWFO Status and other activities - (35')3. General discussion (25')

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2. Description of the Earth System Environment - Stacy Bunin (30')
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2. The Arctic Observing Mission (AOM) - Ray Nassar (35')

3. General Discussion (20')

Agenda 1. Sid and Frank (5') 2. Final Review of Nowcasting Observational Requirements - Jordan Gerth (60') 2nd hour - 1. Core discussion

 Agenda1. Sid and Frank - (5')2.  Discussion about NASA's INCUS mission: Plans, status, Capabilities and How Could it be Leveraged by NOAA?    - Ziad Haddad (60')3. Core-SAT discussions (feds only): will include the following two topics:
(1) INCUS position: what recommendation to NESDIS, (2) finalize the memo on the RFI discussions- what recommendations to NESDIS and NOAA.

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1. Discussion led by Stacy Bunin (45')
2. General discussion (15')

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1. Discussion led by Jim Hooks and Team (30')
2. General discussion (30')

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1. Setting up the stage - Sid & Frank (5')2. Comparative Assessment of space-based atmospheric wind, on NOAA's NWP (AMVs, Aeolus and MW/IR sounders) - Narges Shahroudi, RTI (10')3. Discussion led by - Lidia Cucurul (10')4. TBD - (10')5. General Discussion (25')

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1. Setting up the stage - Sid & Frank (5')2. Refresher _RFI: Situation, prospects, and lessons learned - Dave Spencer (10')3.. NASA RFI Activities Overview - Ed Kim (20')
5. General Discussion (25')
2nd hour

1. Core-SAT: Discuss recommendations on RFI

Agenda1. Setting up the stage - Sid & Frank (5')2. Perspective from NESDIS User Engagement - Renata Lana & Vanessa Escobar, (10')3. NOAA Chief Economist Office perspective - Jeffrey Wielgus/Monica Grasso (5')4. JPSS Perspective - Satya Kalluri (10')5. Perspective from CIRA - Matt Rogers (CIRA), (10')6. General Discussion (25')

Theme: Discussing RFI for Next-Gen Architecture Planning

Agenda: 1. Setting up the stage - Sid & Frank (5')2. RFI: Situation, prospects, and lessons learned - Dave Spencer (10')3. Radio Frequency interference (RFI) Detection-Risk Perspective -Otto Bruegman (10')4. NASA RFI Activities Overview - Ed Kim (10')
5. General Discussion (25')

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- 1st hour: General SAT
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- Frank and Sid (Introduction and general setting: 10')
- Dave and Sid (Introducing BAA studies: 3Dwinds, HyMS, EO-DT 30')
- General discussion, Feedback, Collaboration potential, All (20')

- 2nd hour: core-SAT
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- Feds-only discussion about BAA studies.
- If time permits, potentially initiate a first round of discussion about the nowcasting memos put together by Jordan Gerth and his team with support from Stacy Bunin.

Theme: 'Feasibility, Benefits and Challenges of Deploying Smallsats/Cubesats constellation(s) -Case of Microwave Sounders-' Agenda 1. Setting up the stage - Sid & Frank (5') 2. Bill Blackwell 3. Steve Reising 4. Kevin Garrett 5. Stan Kidder/Tom VonderHaar 6. General discussion

Theme: QOSAP main assessment activities (OSEs, OSSEs) and results, in support of space architecture planning: for LEO, GEO, etc

Agenda:

1. Setting up the stage - Sid & Frank (5')
2. "QOSAP activities in support of the next generation of satellite architecture at NOAA" - Lidia Cucurull, NOAA (35')
3. General discussion (20')

Theme: Deep dive discussion on NASA's AOS mission

Agenda:

1. Setting the stage - Sid & Frank (5')
2. NASA's Earth System Observatory/Atmosphere Observing System (ESO/AOS) - Scott Braun, NASA (30')
3. General discussion (25')

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Agenda: GNSS-RO data

1. Setting up the stage - Sid & Frank (5')
2. Patricia Weir, NOAA (10')
3. Richard Anthes, UCAR (30')
4. General discussion (15')

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Theme: Atmospheric Composition applications

Agenda:

1. Setting up the stage - Sid & Frank (5')
2. Collection of Observational Needs of Atmospheric Composition applications: Variables, Attributes and Prioritization -Brad Pierce/ Shobha Kondragunta, NOAA & other LOs (30')
3. General discussion (25')

2nd hour - Core-SAT members-only - Feds 11:00-12:00 PM

Theme: Feedback from CIs on NESDIS Next-Gen Ground Architecture Agenda: 1. Setting up the stage - Sid & Frank (5') 2. Andrew Jones, CIRA - (15') 3. Isaac Moradi, CISESS) (15') 4. Tristan L' Ecuyer, CIMSS (15') 5. General discussion (30')

Theme: Ocean Surface Winds overview and applications

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1. Setting up the stage - Sid & Frank (5')2. Satellite Ocean Surface Winds: The Why and How and What Should We Do Next - Paul Chang, NOAA (30')3. General discussion (25')

Theme: Observational needs assessment for Nowcasting (part 3)Agenda:1. Setting up the stage - Sid & Frank, (5')
2. Nowcasting Observational needs applications - Jordan Gerth, NOAA (35')

• Winter Precipitation
• Flood Forecasting
• Thunderstorms

3. General discussion (20')
2nd hour - Core-SAT members-only - Feds 11:00-12:00 PM

Theme: LEO Orbital Deployment of Sounders (MW and IR): Temporal Refresh, and Reliability

Agenda:

1. Setting up the stage - Sid & Frank (5')
2. TDB - Valerie Mikles/Bruce Campbell (30')
3. General discussion - (25')2nd hour - Core-SAT members only - Feds 11:00-12:00 PM

Theme: Future observational needs of the ECMWF Earth System prediction model

Agenda:

1. Setting up the stage - Sid & Frank (5')
2. Towards consistent exploitation of Earth system observations in coupled assimilation systems for NWP and reanalysis - Patricia de Rosnay, ECMWF (30')
3. General discussion - (25')

2nd hour - Core-SAT members-only - Feds 11:00-12:00 PM

Theme: CSPP briefingAgenda: 1. Setting up the stage - Sid & Frank (5')2. Community Satellite Processing Package - Allen Huang/Graeme Martin (30')3. General discussion (25')
2nd hour - Core-SAT members-only - Feds 11:00-12:00 PM

Theme: Next-Gen Ground Enterprise: What is it, what are the plans, and what are the next steps.

Agenda:

1. Setting up the stage - Sid & Frank (5')2. Next-Gen Ground Enterprise System (NGES): Plans and Future vision Ra'ad Saleh, NOAA (30')3. General Discussion (25')

2nd hour - Core-SAT members only - Feds 11:00-12:00 PM

Theme:Â Observational needs assessment for Nowcasting Applications.

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1. Setting the Stage - Sid & Frank (5')2. Nowcasting Observational needs - Jordan Gerth, NOAA (35')

1. Fire Monitoring
2. Offshore Winds
3. Dense Fog and Ceiling
4. Winter Precipitation
5. Flood Forecasting
6. Thunderstorms

3. General Discussion (20')

Theme: Observational needs assessment for Nowcasting Applications.

Agenda:

1. Setting the Stage - Sid & Frank (5')

2. Nowcasting Observational needs - Jordan Gerth, NOAA (35')

1. Fire Monitoring
2. Offshore Winds
3. Dense Fog and Ceiling
4. Winter Precipitation
5. Flood Forecasting
6. Thunderstorms

3. General Discussion (20')

Theme: Quantitative assessment of observing systems values as they pertain to the Next-Gen Space Architecture planning

Agenda:

1. Setting the Stage - Sid & Frank, NOAA (5')

2. Advances in Hyperspectral Microwave Sounding- Antonia Gambacorta, NASA (10')

3. General discussion (45')

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Theme:
Finalizing GNWP observational needs & Brainstorming potential ideas for S-NPP use (post-J2 entering operations)
and GOES-15 use (post GOES-T entering operations) from a science perspective


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1. Introduction and setting the scope of the meeting - Sid & Frank (10 min)
2. Finalizing Global NWP observational needs (10 min)
3. Briefing on a NOAA Three-LEO Satellite Constellation - Becky Mesarch [NASA] (30 min)
4. Discussion on the use of SNPP and GOES-15 after successful launch of J2 and GOES-T (40 min)

Government Only discussion

1. Discussion and recommendations on Global NWP needs (30 min)

Theme: Overview of Observational Needs Assessment -Continued

Agenda:

1. Overview of Observational Needs Assessment: Taking stock What we have

achieved,what we plan to do, and for what purpose. Sid and Frank (10 min)

2. SNPP Use Science Options Survey - Sid (5 min)

3. Assessing Observational Needs for Other Applications: Introduction of new topics

Nowcasting: Jordan Gerth

Air quality: led by Greg Frost and Shobha Kondragunta

Ocean and Coasts Needs: Richard Stumpf / Mike Ford

4. Wrap up the findings from SAT's subcommittee on Global NWP. Summary of findings.

Stacy and Rick Anthes (15 min)

5. Review of previously-collected information on global NWP obs needs:

From NESDIS GEO XORWG group. Kevin Garrett (15 min)

From Dave Helms TPIO (15 min)

6. Around the table discussion about global NWP (10 min)

User engagement team, LEO program, others7. General Discussion: open-ended

Theme: Focused discussion on global NWP observation needs (Part ll)

Agenda:

1. Set the stage/ describe the intent in this SAT discussion and the big picture from the Space Architecture perspective: Sid and Frank (10 min)

2. Requirements for Global NWP in ASPEN Tables (Requirements and Priorities) - Richard Anthes (20 min)3. General discussion (30 min)

Theme: Focused discussion on global NWP observation needs.

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General SAT (120 min):
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1- Set the stage/ describe the intent in this SAT discussion and the bigpicture from the Space Architecture perspective: Sid and Frank (10 min)

2- Further definition of the concept, ground rules, and group mechanics(Anthes). (30 min)

3- General discussion and potential establishment of sub-SAT teams to workoffline on identifying the driving applications diverse set of observationaltechnical needs. (Anthes, All) (80 min)

Theme:Observational Needs of the NOAA Technical Systems and Driving Applications: Assessment and Refresh

Agenda:

1- Set the stage/ describe the intent in this SAT discussion and the big picture from the Space Architecture perspective: Sid and Frank (10')

2- Overview of NOAA User Engagement and its Linkage to the Assessment of Observational Needs (Vanessa Escobar, Renata Lana, Kat Hawley). (15')

3- Overview of SPRWG previous effort to assess Observational needs. Rick Anthes (15')

4- NOAA efforts to formally collect, steward and refresh the Observational Technical Needs. Distinction between Needs and Requirements. TPIO team (Dave Helms and Meredith Wagner) (15')

5- Ways forward: Reminder of the Driving Applications Collected previously. A suggested process to inform NOAA about the community's diverse set of corresponding Observational needs. Stacy Bunin (5')

6- General discussion and potential establishment of sub-SAT teams to work offline on identifying the driving applications diverse set of observational technical needs. All (45')

Theme: Discussion on the feasibility of a Hyperspectral Microwave Sensor

Agenda:
1. Setting up the stage - Sid & Frank, 5'
2. Assessing potential capability and impact - Eric Maddy, RTi, 10'
3. Implementation Feasibility Considerations for a Hyperspectral Microwave Sensor - Ed Kim, NASA, 10'
4. Progress and Outlook for a Future Hyperspectral Microwave Sounder -Bill Blackwell, MITLL, 10'
5. Capabilities of HyMS Capability for Sounder, RFI, and Radiometer Intercalibration - Chris Kummerow, CIRA 10'
5. General Discussion (45')

Theme: Legacy Sensors Impact (from non-NWP perspective). Question to be answered: What impacts will the legacy sensors have on the non-NWP applications. This will complement the memo for the same legacy sensors (based on NWP)Agenda:1. Setting the Stage - Sid & Frank (5')
2. Discussion led by Mitch Goldberg (20')
3. General Discussion (35')

Theme: Microwave Imagers: What priority products should be driving the microwave imager, and what characteristics/attributes should be associated with these products?
Agenda:
1. Setting the Stage - Sid and Frank (5')
2. An Overview of Microwave Imagers - Stacy Bunin (10')
3. General Discussion (45')

Theme: In designing a constellation of Sounders orbits: How to maximize the value, in light of the sounders importance to global NWP and Nowcasting but also in light of their ability to derive 3D winds from moisture tracking.
Agenda:1. Setting the Stage - Sid & Frank, NOAA (5')
2. Choice of Orbit deployment for Sounders (equally spaced vs closely tracked) framing the question - Stacy Bunin, RTi (5')
3. Constellation Options: Refresh rate and global coverage - Valerie Mikles & Bungo Shiotani, NASA (5')
4. General Discussion and Information collection (45')

Theme: Identifying the highest importance users applications and MSAs that should drive the LEO constellationAgenda:

1. Identifying Driving Applications for LEO - Mitch Goldberg, NOAA (15')
2. General discussion (45')

Theme: SounderSAT Overview and what low-hanging fruits could also be obtained from the Sounder Project(SounderSAT)?

Agenda:

1. Setting the stage - Sid & Frank, NOAA (5')
2. Overview of the NOAA LEO Sounder Project (former SounderSAT): Status And Expected Capabilities and Characteristics - Bungo Shiotani, Valerie Wright, Marc Wigdor, Michael Scott, NASA (15')
3. General Discussion (40')

Theme: SAT Team: Purpose, Membership, Tools, Website, DocumentationAgenda:

1. Setting the stage - Sid & Frank, NOAA (10')
2. Error handling for Satellite radiance observations in NWP- Tony McNally, ECMWF (10')
3. Introduction of SAT Members (All introducing themselves 20'' each) (20')
4. Introduction of the SAT website - Stacy Bunin, RTi (10')
5. Description of SAT timeline/plans - Frank & Sid, NOAA (5')
6. SAT collective expertise - Sid & Stacy facilitating (15')
7. Assessment Approach - Sid & Frank (5')
8. ASPEN Description- Stacy (15')
9. Identifying the major driving applications for LEO (20')
10. General discussion - All (20')

Theme: Calibration discussion Round IIAgenda:
1.Summary of Sensors Calibration Issues and Types, thoughts on their handling(or Not) by NWP approach(es) Flavio Iturbide - NOAA (10')
2. General Discussion (40')

Theme: Assessing the Sensors Calibration Needs in the era of smallsats/cubesats (Part I) Agenda1. Introduction by Kevin Garrett - NOAA, (on behalf of the NWP community) (5')
2. Will McCarty - NASA GMAO (5')
3. Emily Liu - NEP EMC (5')
4. Steve Swadlye/Ben Ruston - NRL (5')
5. Discussion Led by Flavio Iturbide -NOAA,(on behalf of the sensors calibration community -MW and IR) (5')
6. General Discussion (35')

Theme: Sensor design: As we did with IR, evaluate sounding band trades for MW. Traditional versus high frequency channels (118 vs 50 GHz for exp)
Agenda
1- Set the stage (Sid 5'):
2- Performances of IR hyperspectral: Impact of spectral bands choice/combination, noise levels, and spectral resolution (Eric Maddy, RTi@NOAA) (5' + 5' Q&As)
3- Advanced IR Sounder Nature and Role for the Next NOAA Spaceborne Architecture. (Hank Revercomb, Univ. of Wisconsin) (5' + 5' Q&As)
4- Summary of recent experiments comparing the skill of the CrIS SW-band (4.3 um) versus LW-band (15 um) (Chris Barnet, STC) (5' + 5' Q&As)
5- Discussion (all the group): 25'

This will be followed by a Govt-only discussion (1 hour)

Theme: GEMS, WeatherLock, and WeatherRecord - a unique commercial approach to environmental remote sensingAgenda:
1. GEMS, WeatherLock, and WeatherRecord - a unique commercial approach to Environmental remote sensing (45')
2. General Discussion (15')

Theme: Quality, Quantity or Both?: Discuss LEO swarm of small sensors (esp. sounders). What impact(s) could this have on overall architecture performance?
Agenda:
1. Discussion introduction led by Likun Wang, UMD@ NOAA (10')
2. Discussion led by Dr. Jun Li, CIMSS (10')
3. Perspective on disaggregation: Lessons from NSOSA and BAA, discussion led by Frank G./Rick A. (10')
4. General Discussion (30')

Theme: Should sensors and IR Bands be collocated (and co-aligned) or could they be disaggregated? (case of Microwave and IR sensors, but also SW, MidW and LW IR bands)
Agenda:
1. Sid Boukabara. Review NWP survey on the need (or not) to collocate MW / IR sensors (10')
2. General Discussion - MW and IR sensors colocation (30')
3. General Discussion - IR Bands colocation SW, MW and LW (20')

Theme: Discussing the evolution of NWP (UFS) and its Corresponding Requirements of the future. How could this be driving the Next-Gen Architecture? How Important will the Ocean, Aerosols, Land, Hydrometeors parameters become for UFS?Agenda:
1. Linking the Future of Data Assimilation to Future Observables Discussion by Will McCarty (10')
2. Future Observational Needs for NWP - Discussion led by Jim Yoe (10')
3. Review of NOAA Unified Forecast System Future Observation Needs Discussion led by Kevin Garrett (10')
4. ASPEN Overview for Future NWP - Discussion by Stacy Bunin (5')
5. General Discussion (25')

Theme: Assessing Impact of Losing the Legacy Satellites on the Global NWPAgenda:
1. Impact on NWP of losing Legacy sensors. Discussion by K. Garrett, With input from OAR, NASA, and NRL (15')
2. General Discussion (45')

Theme: Atmospheric 3D winds: Recommended approach for the 2030-2040 TimeframeAgenda:
1. Introduction and Rules of Engagement
2. Observing System Simulation Experiments to Evaluate the Potential Impact of Alternative Technologies for Space-Based Lidar Winds on Numerical Weather Prediction: Presentation by Dr. Robert Atlas (5')
3. 3D winds from Space using lidars. Perspectives Presentation led by Mike Hardesty (10')
4. Experience using 3D winds from ESA's Aeolus. Impact on NWP. Presentation by Kayo Ide & K. Garrett (10')
5. Aeolus NWP Impact on TCs. Presentation by Lidia Cucurull (5')
6. Comparison of Aeolus winds to AIRS 3D winds. Presentation by Dave Santek, (10')
7. 3D Winds from Atmospheric Motion Vectors: Information Content, Uncertainty, and Complementarity. Presentation by Derek Posselt, (10')
8. Discussions by all (10')

Theme: Hyperspectral IR Bands Selection Choices: Recommendation and Assessment of Pros and ConsAgenda:
1. A Description of Infrared LW, MW, SW bands. Discussion led by Eric Maddy Contribution from all. (10')
2. Spectral Characteristics of IR Sounder: Classical/Smallsat Types. Discussion led by Flavio Iturbide-Sanchez (10')
3. Overview of exploiting Hyperspectral IR Shortwave Observations in NWP. Presentation/Discussion led by Kevin Garrett Contribution from all. A number of National NWP Centers are expected to Participate. (15')
4. General Discussion (25')

Theme: Supporting SounderSAT Internal Government Design for MW and IR SoundersAgenda:
1- Quick demo of the ASPEN tool being developed in NESDIS. This is a follow up from the previous SAT meeting when the demo did not work out. Demo led by Sid and/or Ross. (5')
2- Situating the Problem: Overview of existing/upcoming MW and IR sensors characteristics: Both Classic & Smallsat types. Discussion led by Flavio Iturbide-Sanchez (10')
3- Envelope of Performances between Classical and Smallsats: for Microwave and IR sensors. Discussion led by Eric and/or Sid (10')
4- Discussion on Performance-driving Sensors Characteristics and their prioritization for Global NWP: Case of Microwave Sounder. Discussion led by Ed Kim, NASA and contributions from all. (15')
5- Discussion on Performance-driving Sensors Characteristics and their prioritization for Global NWP: case of Hyperspectral Infrared Sounder. Discussion led by Dave Johnson, NASA and contributions from all. (15')
6- Discussion. All. (10')

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1. Discussion on ToR and SAT restructure
2. SAT Role and how it fits in the overall picture in NESDIS/NOAA
3. Work Plan & Science Priorities
4. Presentation opportunities to address science questions
5. SAT's Assessment Tool (ASPEN) general description
6. Independent Government Design (IGD) for SounderSAT MW & IR: What are the driving sensors characteristics that are important for performances, and their ranking

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